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Preventative Botox: A Worthwhile Investment or Misleading Trend?
Preventative Botox raises complex questions about aging, beauty standards, and individual motivations. We explore surgical perspectives, financial impacts, cultural pressures, and holistic alternatives for skin care.
• Overview of the concept of preventative Botox
• Differences between dynamic and static wrinkles
• Perspectives from certified plastic surgeons on Botox efficacy
• Considerations about the financial sustainability of Botox treatments
• Makeup artist Katie Moyer's critical view on preventative Botox
• Alternative approaches to skincare focusing on healthy habits
• The influence of cultural norms on beauty and aging perceptions
• Encouragement to examine self-identity versus societal expectations
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Welcome to the Beauty Standard with Dr Roy Kim. Okay, so have you heard about preventative Botox?
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:It's like everywhere these days, right.
Speaker 2:It is.
Speaker 1:All over social media magazines. Maybe even you know conversations with friends. So we're going to take a deep dive into whether it's really all it's cracked up to be, and if it's even something worth considering. Right it's really all it's cracked up to be, and if it's even something worth considering Right. Our guide for this deep dive is a recent Newsweek article that explores both sides of this increasingly popular treatment.
Speaker 2:Okay, cool, yeah. What's really fascinating about preventative Botox is that we're not just talking about addressing wrinkles that you already have.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:We're talking about kind of preemptively stopping them.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it really is a whole new way of thinking about beauty and aging.
Speaker 2:It is.
Speaker 1:But before we get ahead of ourselves, let's break down exactly what preventative Botox is and how it actually works.
Speaker 2:Okay, so preventative Botox isn't about erasing existing wrinkles like traditional Botox Right, it targets specific muscles that are prone to repetitive movements.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:Like when you frown or raise your eyebrows. Oh, I see, by injecting Bocox into those muscles, you're essentially reducing their activity.
Speaker 1:So it's not about like freezing your face or anything.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:It's more about subtly relaxing certain muscles to prevent those dynamic wrinkles from becoming like etched into your face over time.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's a good way to put it.
Speaker 1:And, by the way, when I say dynamic wrinkles, I mean like the ones that show up when you make expressions.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:But over time those can turn into those like more permanent static wrinkles.
Speaker 2:Exactly Okay, and to understand this better, it helps to grasp the difference between those two types of wrinkles. Got it? You know, the Newsweek article uses a great analogy. Oh really, Imagine folding a piece of paper repeatedly.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Eventually that crease becomes permanent.
Speaker 1:Oh.
Speaker 2:Dynamic wrinkles are like the initial folds. I see Temporary and fleeting.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:But with time and repetition they can turn into those stubborn permanent creases we call static wrinkles.
Speaker 1:Oh, okay, that's a great way to visualize it.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:But you know something that I found interesting in this article it mentioned that Gen Z is actually getting on board with this trend. Oh, wow, yeah. So is it really necessary to start worrying about wrinkles in your early 20s? Yeah, it seems a bit early, doesn't it?
Speaker 2:It's a fair question and it taps into the heart of the debate around preventative Botox.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:We know that collagen production starts to decline in our mid-20s.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:And collagen is what keeps our skin elastic and plump.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:So the logic behind preventative Botox is to intervene before that decline really kicks in.
Speaker 1:I see. So it's like trying to get ahead of the game before those wrinkles even have a chance to form Right. But is that always the best approach? The article actually quotes two board certified plastic surgeons OK, dr David Schaefer and Stephen Hanna.
Speaker 2:OK.
Speaker 1:And they seem to have slightly different takes on this.
Speaker 2:Oh, interesting yeah. So what do they have to say?
Speaker 1:Well, Dr Schaefer believes it can be effective.
Speaker 2:OK.
Speaker 1:But he stresses that it depends on individual factors. So he's really big on informed consent. He even mentioned that he turns clients away if they don't fully understand the long-term commitment involved.
Speaker 2:Wow, that's pretty telling.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I thought so too.
Speaker 2:So what about the other doctor?
Speaker 1:So, dr Hanna, he takes a more cautious stance, especially when it comes to younger patients.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:He only recommends preventative Botox in younger people for specific medical conditions. Oh really, yeah, like masseter muscle hypertrophy which affects the jaw muscles, preventative Botox in younger people for specific medical conditions.
Speaker 2:Oh really.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like masseter muscle hypertrophy which affects the jaw muscles, interesting. So it's not just about erasing wrinkles for him.
Speaker 2:Got it.
Speaker 1:There needs to be a clear medical rationale.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Especially when dealing with younger patients. Right, it really makes you think about the potential for overuse, yeah, or even misuse, of these treatments. And speaking of things to consider, let's talk about the elephant in the room.
Speaker 2:What's that?
Speaker 1:The cost.
Speaker 2:Right, of course.
Speaker 1:The Newsweek article cites data from the American Society of Plastic Surgeons.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:And the average cost for neuromodulator injections, which includes Botox, is around $435. Yeah, that's not exactly pocket change. No, it's Botox is around $435. Yeah, that's not exactly pocket change.
Speaker 2:No, it's not.
Speaker 1:And you know, the kicker is that the results typically only last three to four months. Oh, wow, yeah so that's something to think about. Yeah, it is especially for younger people who might be considering this as a long-term strategy. It raises questions about financial sustainability.
Speaker 2:Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1:And the potential burden of maintaining these treatments over time. It's something to carefully consider before jumping in.
Speaker 2:Absolutely.
Speaker 1:Definitely. Now, before we commit to anything, let's hear what a beauty industry veteran has to say about this whole trend.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:The Newsweek article introduces us to Katie Moyer. She's a makeup artist with over two decades of experience wow and she doesn't hold back when it comes to her opinions on preventative botox oh, I like her already yeah, she's pretty outspoken too, her perspective is a fascinating counterpoint to the plastic surgeons we just discussed right offering a different set of concerns based on her experience in the beauty industry Makes sense, so she actually went viral for her appearance on the Him and Her podcast.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, I think I saw that.
Speaker 1:Where she didn't mince words. She called preventative Botox misleading and unnecessary for most 20-somethings. Wow.
Speaker 2:Yeah, she's not holding back.
Speaker 1:She argues that it can create a financial burden Okay, and even a psychological dependence on injectables.
Speaker 2:That's a good point.
Speaker 1:It is. I think she makes a good point there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, definitely something to think about.
Speaker 1:It really highlights the need to be mindful of our motivations for seeking these treatments Right and to ensure we're not prioritizing quick fixes over a holistic approach to skin health. Yeah, for sure quick fixes over a holistic approach to skin health? Yeah, for sure, you know. She also raises the concern that relying on preventative Botox might lead people to neglect other important aspects of skin care.
Speaker 2:Oh, like what?
Speaker 1:Like protecting their skin from the sun or developing a healthy skin care routine.
Speaker 2:That's an excellent point.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:It's like we're so focused on this one thing that we forget about the basics.
Speaker 1:Exactly, and it's about creating a solid foundation of healthy skin habits rather than relying solely on cosmetic procedures.
Speaker 2:I like that.
Speaker 1:And that brings us to Moyer's alternative approach.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:Which she calls the fundamentals of skin health.
Speaker 2:So what are the fundamentals?
Speaker 1:I'm curious to hear more about this.
Speaker 2:You too.
Speaker 1:It's always good to have a well-rounded perspective, considering both the pros and cons of different approaches.
Speaker 2:Absolutely.
Speaker 1:Okay, so you're probably wondering what Moyer recommends instead of you know going the preventative Botox route.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I am Well.
Speaker 1:the Newsweek article highlights her focus on what she calls the fundamentals, which basically boils down to taking good care of your skin.
Speaker 2:That makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:It's like building a strong foundation before you even think about, you know, adding any fancy embellishments.
Speaker 1:Exactly, and one of her top priorities is limiting sun exposure. She really emphasizes the importance of protecting your skin from the sun's damaging rays.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we all know sunscreen is essential. But what else does she recommend?
Speaker 1:She talks about being more mindful of your sun exposure habits in general, Things like seeking shade during peak hours, wearing protective clothing and even remembering that UV rays can penetrate clouds, so protection is important even on a cloudy day.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's easy to forget about those things when you're not directly under the blazing sun.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:But it's those consistent everyday habits that really add up over time when it comes to protecting your skin.
Speaker 1:Right, and speaking of things we often overlook.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:Moyer is also a big advocate for getting enough sleep.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, something I think we could all probably benefit from. Definitely Sleep is so crucial for our overall health. Think we could all probably benefit from. Definitely Sleep is so crucial for our overall health, but it's often the first thing to go when we're busy or stressed, but you know, as the Newsweek article pointed out, sleep deprivation can really take a toll on our skin.
Speaker 1:Absolutely. It can make our skin look dull and tired and more prone to wrinkles.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no one wants that.
Speaker 1:Moyer's point is that when we're sleep deprived, our skin doesn't have the chance to repair itself properly.
Speaker 2:Oh, okay.
Speaker 1:Which can accelerate the aging process.
Speaker 2:Makes you want to prioritize those eight hours tonight, doesn't it?
Speaker 1:It really does.
Speaker 2:Okay, so enough sleep. What else?
Speaker 1:Now another fundamental that Moyer highlights is the connection between diet and skin health.
Speaker 2:Oh, that's a good one.
Speaker 1:You know that saying you are what you eat.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Well, it seems like that applies to our skin as well.
Speaker 2:There's no doubt that what we put into our bodies affects how we look and feel.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:And our skin is no exception.
Speaker 1:Exactly. Moyer stresses the importance of a nutrient-rich diet Okay Packed with antioxidants, vitamins and minerals, to nourish our skin from the inside out.
Speaker 2:So what kinds of foods are we talking about here?
Speaker 1:Think lots of colorful fruits and vegetables. Okay, healthy fats and lean protein.
Speaker 2:It's a good reminder that skincare isn't just about what we apply topically.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:It's also about what we fuel our bodies with.
Speaker 1:So true. Now, in addition to these lifestyle changes, Moyer also mentions a more hands-on approach.
Speaker 2:Like what Microneedling? Oh yeah, I've been hearing more and more about that lately.
Speaker 1:Have you ever tried it?
Speaker 2:I haven't personally.
Speaker 1:It sounds a bit intimidating at first. I can imagine Tiny needles creating controlled microinjuries in the skin.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:But the Newsweek article explains that this process actually stimulates collagen production oh wow and helps improve skin texture.
Speaker 2:So it's not just about erasing wrinkles.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:It's about promoting overall skin rejuvenation and a more youthful appearance.
Speaker 1:Exactly, and while microneedling is a medical procedure, it aligns with Moyer's philosophy of prioritizing a more holistic approach to skin care. I see it's about working with your skin's natural processes to enhance its health and vibrancy, rather than simply trying to mask imperfections.
Speaker 2:That's a really interesting distinction. It's like choosing to nourish and support your skin rather than just trying to cover up any perceived flaws.
Speaker 1:Right, and it makes you wonder is it possible to combine these different approaches? Can we blend the fundamentals with medical interventions like Botox to achieve the best possible results?
Speaker 2:That's a great question.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And it speaks to the evolving landscape of beauty and aging Right. There's no one size fits all answer.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:And what works best for one person might not be the right approach for another.
Speaker 1:It seems like the key is to find what feels right for you, both physically and philosophically.
Speaker 2:Absolutely, and it's about having open and honest conversations with qualified professionals who can help you navigate the options and make informed decisions that align with your individual needs and goals.
Speaker 1:Now we've talked a lot about the practical side of preventative Botox.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:But there's another layer to this conversation that we haven't fully addressed.
Speaker 2:What's that?
Speaker 1:The cultural context.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, you're right.
Speaker 1:It's not just about wrinkles and treatments. It's about how we perceive aging and beauty.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:And the pressures we face in a society that often values youth above all else.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's a big one.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's like we're living in this strange paradox.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:On one hand, we're told to like embrace aging gracefully.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:But then we're bombarded with images of like ageless celebrities and influencers. It's hard not to feel the pressure to keep up.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and social media plays a huge role in shaping those perceptions too, we're constantly scrolling through carefully curated feeds filled with filtered perfection.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:It's easy to lose sight of what's real and attainable.
Speaker 1:It makes you wonder.
Speaker 2:What's that?
Speaker 1:Are we choosing preventative Botox because we genuinely want it Right, or are we like, subtly influenced by these external pressures?
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Are we trying to like freeze time or? Are we just trying to fit in.
Speaker 2:That's a really good question. Yeah, it reminds me of something Dr Schaefer emphasized in the Newsweek article.
Speaker 1:What's that?
Speaker 2:The importance of understanding our motivations.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Are we seeking these treatments for ourselves?
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:Or are we trying to meet someone else's expectations?
Speaker 1:It's like we're caught in this tug of war between self-acceptance and societal pressures. Yeah, it is, and it seems like younger generations, like Gen Z, are facing even more pressure to look a certain way.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I mean, they're growing up in a world where appearance is constantly scrutinized and documented online. Exactly it's no wonder they're feeling the pressure to start these treatments earlier and earlier.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:It's a lot to navigate.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And it brings us back to that thought-provoking question posed in the Newsweek article. Okay, how much do cultural pressures and beauty standards influence decisions around preventative Botox, especially for younger generations?
Speaker 2:It's a question we can't ignore, right, and it's not just about preventative Botox. It's about all forms of cosmetic enhancements? Are we making these choices freely and autonomously?
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:Or are we bowing to external pressures?
Speaker 1:It's a complex issue with no easy answers.
Speaker 2:It really is.
Speaker 1:But I think simply asking the question is a step in the right direction.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 1:It encourages us to be more mindful and critical of the messages we're bombarded with.
Speaker 2:Absolutely.
Speaker 1:So, as we wrap up our deep dive into the world of preventative Botox, it seems like the biggest takeaway isn't about wrinkles or needles. It's about taking a step back and really examining our motivation Exactly. It's about understanding the societal pressures that influence us and having the courage to challenge them. I like that.
Speaker 1:And it's about remembering that true beauty isn't about chasing after some unattainable ideal yeah but about embracing our individuality and aging gracefully on our own terms I couldn't have said it better myself so we hope this deep dive has given you some food for thought, yeah, and helped you explore this complex topic definitely remember there's no one-size-fits-all answer when it comes to beauty and aging right. What matters most is making informed decisions that feel right for you. Absolutely and as always, stay curious.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:Keep questioning.
Speaker 2:Uh huh.
Speaker 1:And never stop learning.
Speaker 2:Until next time.
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